A Full-Bust Wishlist

I know more often than not we make wishlists for things that actually exist (that we generally wind up impulse-purchasing in a moment of weakness– wait, just me?), but having just come from Lingerie World Extravaganza Expo All the Lingerie Ever February 2013, I’ve been looking at my wardrobe, my lingerie drawer, and my shopping options with an ever-more-critical eye.  I’ve been ruthless about my wardrobe lately; pruning things that no longer fit or flatter, eliminating “fast fashion” pieces that last three wears or fall out of style quickly, and seeking out clothes that are cut to fit me, rather than forcing a sort-of-but-not-quite fit.  Thanks to some re-migrated breast tissue my bust is fuller than it used to be, and thanks to pole dancing my shoulders are stronger and a bit broader than they were five years ago.  The clothes I’ve worn for 5-10 years are tired and no longer fit.  I’m sick of too-short skirts, tops that don’t fit my shape, cardigans that gape, and synthetics.  I don’t necessarily follow fashion “rules” like no-short-skirts-past-20 or big-boobs-can’t-wear-high-necklines, but I do evaluate any new clothing item very, very carefully, thinking about how I’ll feel by the end of a work day.  Will I still love it, or will I want to tear it off and reach for a t-shirt?

"Candy Box" longline bra by Kiss Me Deadly

“Candy Box” longline bra by Kiss Me Deadly. I wants it.

My lingerie is the same.  It’s an unfortunate reality that sometimes we have to wear a new bra for a full day before we realize it’s not a match made in heaven.  At that point, of course, you can’t return it, and you’ve sunk $40+.  With time and practice you get better at recognizing a good fit from the get-go, but it can be supremely frustrating trying to build a supportive, complete lingerie wardrobe and figure out what brands fit you at the same time.

As winter is beginning to trickle away sloooowly, I’m evaluating the holes in my regular wardrobe and my lingerie wardrobe, and I’m beginning to think about some budgeting.  The bad news is, there are lots of things I’d love to add to my wardrobe. My sense of style and fit is stronger than it’s ever been before. The good news is, none of the things I’d like to add to my wardrobe exist in the full-bust market!  Woohoo!  Wait.

Look, some of these things exist, or they’re starting to exist.  In many cases, however, I’m still waiting for a perfect fit, rather than a this-almost-works fit.

Lingerie:

Oh my god, WHAT is the holdup with a G+ longline bra? Seriously, this trend has been happening for the last three years, it’s here to stay (I hope), and yet it’s still mostly trapped in the 30-38 A-G size range (Fussy Busty and Windie (picture below) provide reviews of Freya’s most recent iteration of their half-cup longline).  Why is everyone married to a padded half-cup shape as the only cup shape available to slap a longline band on? It doesn’t support as many sizes, and frankly I don’t really LIKE padded half cups.  Elomi is getting there with their Roxy style for Spring/Summer, but even that’s only planned to go up to HH.  What about smaller-backed G-K customers? WANT.

Look at how amazing Windie looks in her Freya longline bra.  I mean, for starters, the color is gorgeous on her.  But the bra itself is feminine, cute, classic, and contemporary all at once.

Look at how amazing Windie looks in her Freya longline bra. I mean, for starters, the color is gorgeous on her. Furthermore, the bra itself is feminine, cute, classic, and contemporary all at once.

When I spoke with the Freya rep at CurveNY she confirmed that Freya is expanding their cup size range for their half-cups (to an H), but G+ longlines (especially non-padded) are still but a dream (also, Eveden brands don’t play well with my shape). Bravissimo, the ball’s in your court. Your basque is amazing, now just shorten it.

"Roxy" by Elomi, 34-40 E-HH.  Still a fairly small size run, and the pattern is NOT MY CUP OF TEA.  At all.  I mean, I don't think it's repellant, and I think it's going to appeal to a lot of women who might be sick of frills and flowers, but I had hoped for better.

“Roxy” by Elomi, 34-40 E-HH. Still a fairly small size run, and the pattern is NOT MY CUP OF TEA. At all. I mean, I don’t think it’s repellant, and I think it’s going to appeal to a lot of women who might be sick of frills and flowers, but I had hoped for something else.

After talking with a few retailers, I can sort of see why the trend has been a little slow to reach the G+ market: you have to keep a bra’s hanger appeal in mind, and a 34HH or 30K longline bra is going to look like A LOT OF BRA.  If you’re just opening a woman’s eyes to life past DD, she might take one look and balk (she might also be stuck in the mindset of “lingerie must be sexy for men and men won’t like this”. First of all, lingerie CAN be sexy, but sexiness is not its raison d’etre, and secondly, you are the one who wears it.  If it makes YOU feel good, that’s the important thing).  I think, though, that with the explosive growth of the lingerie markets in the last decade, increased public awareness of different styles, and more fashion-conscious women looking for lingerie that fits their personal style, G+longlines would be a good bet for a designer.  At the end of the day, a good, firm, deep band with 6 or more hooks (and even some light side boning) would feel so, so glorious for women in the G+ size range.  Our boobs are heavy.  Support comes from the band.  Help us hold them up, please.

Strapless basque: I suspect Bravissimo might be working towards this, as they’re selling their own strapless bra up for F-J cups now, but I would love a strapless/convertible bra with a longer line, or even a strapless basque. I very much want to wear halter dresses and strapless dresses and tops this summer, on account of pole-dancing arms, but so many halter dresses have elasticized backs that bunch up unattractively over a good firm strapless bra band (I confess to some middle-torso smoosh contributing to this). Bravissimo’s Lola Luxe basque is light and breathable, yet still smoothing, and a strapless/convertible basque or longline with that kind of figure flattery would be worth its weight in gold.

"Rosa" by Fantasie.  When a lot of women think "wedding lingerie" they think of something like this.  I forsee a few problems with a G+ version: contour cups just don't play well with certain sizes, and the boning might get stiff and uncomfortable.  Bravissimo is experimenting with light boning in the cups of their strapless bra, which would allow you to get the good fit of a cut-and-sew and the stay-in-place power of a contour

“Rosa” by Fantasie. When a lot of women think “wedding lingerie” they think of something like this, and there is NOTHING like this for women who wear over a UK G-cup. I foresee a few problems with a G+ version, primarily that contour cups don’t play well with extended sizes, and the boning might get stiff and uncomfortable. Bravissimo is experimenting with light boning in the cups of their strapless bra, which would allow you to get the good fit of a cut-and-sew and the stay-in-place power of a contour, so maybe when they do me a solid and produce something like this for G+ cups they’ll have it all figured out.

More interesting matching knickers and accessories: I get it, I get it.  Bikini + Thong.  They are the classics, and I don’t want them to go away.  HOWEVER!  Look at what Claudette is doing.  Look at Parfait.  They still offer bikinis and thongs, but they are also offering SO MUCH MORE.  High waist knickers, suspenders, ruffles, shorts, skirted thongs, tap pants, tangas.  Some days (and some times of the month) you just want a comfy giant pair of underpants.  I would adore it if they were also cute and matched my bras.

LOVE. THESE. KNICKERS.

LOVE. THESE. KNICKERS.  Moar pleez.

Prints: Oh my gosh, this topic came up recently in a discussion amongst some of my fellow bloggers, and their suggestions are AMAZING.  Seriously, take a look at this list and tell me you don’t also want bras like this:

From Quest for the Perfect Bra: Old school botanical prints, cats, tiny whales, galaxy print

Space Print Big Knickers by Knickerocker.  How cute would this be as a matching set!??  Actually, scratch that, how cute would ANY of her knickers be with a matching full-bust bra?  Will someone out there in full-bust world collaborate with this talented woman, please?

Space Print Big Knickers by Knickerocker. How cute would this be as a matching set!?? Actually, scratch that, how cute would ANY of her knickers be with a matching full-bust bra? Will someone out there in full-bust world collaborate with this talented woman, please?

From Bras I Hate and Love: Polka dots, tiny animals like whales, cats, and dogs, snowflakes, and Fair Isle

Fair Isle print bra and knickers by Pull-In, a French company with a HUGE range of fun, unusual prints

Fair Isle print bra and knickers by Pull-In, a French company with a HUGE range of fun, unusual prints (but not, alas, sizes)

From The Lingerie Lesbian: Hieronymous Bosch prints

Detail from "Garden of Earthly Delights" by Hieronymous Bosch

Detail from “Garden of Earthly Delights” by Hieronymous Bosch.  For all your high-brow, faintly disturbing lingerie needs

From Sophia Jenner: Tiny boats, tiny tigers [zomg tiny tigers would be so cute! -Ed.], tiny ponies (sensing a theme? we were all pretty gung-ho on tiny animals)

"Bella" Sailboat Bra by Kensie, available at Nordstrom.  32-36 B-DD, featuring a J-hook to convert it to a racer back.

“Bella” Sailboat Bra by Kensie, available at Nordstrom. 32-36 B-DD, featuring a J-hook to convert it to a racer back.

From Les Gros Bonnets: Tiki prints or deep green jungle foliage

Tiki print dress by Pin Up Couture

Tiki print dress by Pin Up Couture

From Braless in Brasil: Space ships, race cars, superheroes

Guitar Knickers.  From Knickerocker, again.  I can see this working well in a full-bust line aimed at supporting full-bust teenagers, but I frankly can see women my age and older wearing them happily too

Guitar Knickers. From Knickerocker, again. I can see this working really well in a full-bust line aimed at supporting full-bust teenagers, but I also see women my age and older wearing them happily too.

Lingerie is able to be so much more than the beige/black/pink floral-lacey things we put on under our clothes.  There are so many creative people working in this industry now, and some wonderfully fashion-forward offerings are available even at budget price points.  It can really be an expression of personal style, the more so since you can hide it under your uniform or business clothes.  Why NOT have a little fun with it?  I definitely don’t want florals or lace to go away (never leave me, lace), and Freya and Cleo have made some headway in the full-bust print department, but I think we can do more.

Loungewear: The scene is getting better, I’m just crabby and want more.

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Jenny Packham, via Journelle. Will never be mine, on account of kittens and their Fur of Great Tenacity (and also, you know, budget), but if I found something like this that fit my boobs and showed off my gams, I’d never take it off.  (Plus, you know, marabou heels, gimlet, chaise lounge, etc.)

I want to see babydolls (Cleo and Curvy Kate are the first out of the gate with this one, with J-cup and K-cup babydolls, respectively, on the horizon for the end of the year), chemises, rompers, bodysuits, tank tops, pajama sets, the works, all designed to fit and/or support a larger bust.  In particular, I’d love a high-quality jersey robe with enough room in the bust to wrap  around me completely and STAY wrapped.  I also wouldn’t say no to a fitted long silk kimono with dramatically enormous sleeves, and I believe my stance on floofy robes is well-known at this point.

Silk Chiffon Wrap by Jenny Packham.  Add boob room and hand me a winning lottery ticket, and I'll take it!

Silk Chiffon Wrap by Jenny Packham. Add boob room and hand me a winning lottery ticket, and I’ll take it!

Baddassery: If you are a full-bust lady, especially in the G+ range, your style options are much more limited than your smaller-busted counterparts’.  Don’t get me wrong, IT’S SO MUCH BETTER than it used to be.  I still feel so sorry for Teenage Sweets.  She had the worst underwear, bless her heart.  However, if kitschy prints, florals, lace, dots, and other girly/womanly/super feminine styles aren’t your cup of tea, your options are pretty much non-existent unless you go for custom-made.

Lascivious, via Faire Frou Frou

Lascivious, via Faire Frou Frou

I’d love to see full-bust versions of FYI by Dani ReadVPL, Marlies DekkersLascivious and other high-end, edgy, sophisticated lingerie lines– something with a darker, fiercer bite, something a little sportier, or something a little more androgynous.  I love the feminine frills, of course, but not every full-bust woman is born with an innate desire to look like a pin-up girl or a Gibson Girl.  I’d like to see more options available.

Insertion Bra Fern by VPL

Insertion Bra Fern by VPL

I was going to include clothes, but I’ve been living at the office this week and haven’t had time to blog, and anyway this post has gone on long enough, don’t you think? We’ll tackle clothes soon. What would YOU most like to see in the full-bust market?  Is there anything you absolutely love that you think is missing, or that you think would find an eager customer base?

30 Comments on A Full-Bust Wishlist

  1. annassowa
    March 15, 2013 at 9:27 am (6 years ago)

    I want all those things especially a long line bra (which seems like a no brainer for a larger cup) and lounge wear with a robe that doesn’t become rated X at your first step. Maybe with buttons or a zipper. I am so excited at the idea of rompers and baby dolls! Also what happened to Tutti Rouge- it is no where to be found.

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    • Sweets
      March 15, 2013 at 9:30 am (6 years ago)

      I think so many designers think “oh, a robe, one size fits all, done”. NO, NOT DONE. A little bit of shape and coverage would go a long way! Tutti Rouge is coming! They’ll be in stores in the UK in May (Bravissimo, that I know of, but I think others as well), and they’re looking for US buyers as well. All bras will be 28-38 DD-HH, all accessories will be S-XL. I can’t wait to try them!

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  2. Jacqui
    March 15, 2013 at 10:16 am (6 years ago)

    OMG. Yes to all these things. I’m between an FF-G, so don’t struggle as much as the G+ lasses, but still. Badassery? Forget it! I have been drooling over VPL since they first appeared at Faire Frou Frou, but trying to fit in the cups – even though they are wireless and thus more forgiving – is just pathetic. Such a shame, because I loooove the aesthetic. And even when it comes to basic babydolls and chemises, the full-bust market is seriously lacking. I also love me some Eberjey, but those spindly little straps that hold the ensemble up just aren’t gonna work. I don’t need underwire and feats of engineering (I don’t like wearing underwire to bed anyway), just thicker straps, maybe a cup area with some seaming for support, and in general just a little more room up top. No more shelf “support” that hits mid-boob. I will gladly pay good money for these things!

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    • Sweets
      March 15, 2013 at 10:31 am (6 years ago)

      Ha, I remember before I found my bra size trying to fit into “shelf support” nightwear and swimwear, and the little foam cups were more like nipple shields. Definitely don’t miss those! Oooh, I hadn’t even thought of Eberjey, but yes yes yes! It would be so lovely to have things like that to wear that had room for my boobs.

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  3. DA
    March 15, 2013 at 10:40 am (6 years ago)

    Yes, yes, and yes!

    To be honest I’m a little sick of the patterns that Panache/Freya bras are coming out with. I want wild edgy bras like Lascivious and Marlies Dekkers. More satin/silk, please!

    And also, tiny penguins. I’d wear them so hard.

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    • Sweets
      March 15, 2013 at 10:54 am (6 years ago)

      Tiny animals: taking the full-bust world by storm since 2013.

      Reply
  4. bralessinbrasil
    March 15, 2013 at 11:03 am (6 years ago)

    Yes, to EVERYTHING. Especially, PLEASE some full-bust designer work with Knickerockers that might mean heaven on Earth!!!!!!!

    Also, what about playsuits for full-busts? Or nightwear (ok, Bravissimo now goes to J cups, which is awesome, but as always I want MORE!). 🙂

    Other things… Full-bust active swimwear in a bikini (Freya Active, please? At least go up to K cups there…) and performance wear.

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    • Sweets
      March 15, 2013 at 11:36 am (6 years ago)

      Don’t hold me to this, because I’ll need to check my catalogues, but I THINK Freya is bringing a K cup to their Active swimwear, and Panache is doing their sports bra as a performance suit for A/W 2013. So that’s good news! A full-bust Knickerocker collab would be so, so amazing!

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      • bralessinbrasil
        March 15, 2013 at 12:28 pm (6 years ago)

        I’ve been wondering if Freya would do that since they did expand their sports bras to K cup. I just hope that they end up making it into a bikini set instead of tankini/shorts or one-pieces. 🙂

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        • Sweets
          March 15, 2013 at 12:32 pm (6 years ago)

          Shoot, I’m going to really, really, really try to remember to check when I get home. My gut is telling me the first run is a one-piece, but I’ll try to let you know for sure!

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        • Sweets
          March 17, 2013 at 11:20 pm (6 years ago)

          I failed you– Active swim is still below a K cup. Boooo. Maybe for 2014?

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  5. Darlene
    March 15, 2013 at 11:05 am (6 years ago)

    I love it: “I still feel so sorry for Teenage Sweets. She had the worst underwear, bless her heart.” Doesn’t Fauve make a basque that goes past a G cup? Maybe I’m wrong.

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    • Sweets
      March 15, 2013 at 11:38 am (6 years ago)

      mayyybe? Masquerade had a basque up to an H, but it wasn’t strapless/convertible. The only Fauve basque I know of is the Rosa, which I think stops at a G. We’ll keep hoping.

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  6. sophie
    March 15, 2013 at 11:43 am (6 years ago)

    any idea what size range does Kiss me deadly have? I love their designs but I have this image in my head that they don’t have, say, F-cups in their selection.

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    • Sweets
      March 15, 2013 at 11:54 am (6 years ago)

      Hi Sophie! Kiss Me Deadly bras run in a fairly standard size range: 32-38 B-DD. They’re not a full-bust brand, and being an independent company, size range expansion isn’t really a possibility for them. They are very much interested in collaborating with a full-bust brand (with the know-how and factories capable of production) on a future collection, so if you want a KMD full-bust bra, I’d definitely encourage you to badger your favorite full-bust brands to collaborate with them!

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  7. thelingerielesbian
    March 15, 2013 at 1:16 pm (6 years ago)

    Love this post! And I’d like to say that I had never even considered that you might need a different, full-bust specific robe. I am learning things!

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    • Sweets
      March 15, 2013 at 1:31 pm (6 years ago)

      Haha, I’m here to help. And YEAH, I am having a heck of a time finding a comfy, flattering robe. That one’s a very personal request 🙂

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      • thelingerielesbian
        March 15, 2013 at 1:44 pm (6 years ago)

        Is the problem too much bulk at the waist if it fits the bust?

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        • Sweets
          March 15, 2013 at 1:47 pm (6 years ago)

          It’s too much bulk EVERYWHERE. By the time I find something to wrap around my bust, the armholes are massive, the back is frumpy, there’s extra bagging and length at the waist. It’s basically all the issues you have with full busts and wrap dresses. A pretty silk or luxe robe? Forget it.

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          • thelingerielesbian
            March 15, 2013 at 1:47 pm (6 years ago)

            Ahhh, sadness! We must find the solution 🙂

  8. Erica of A Sophisticated Pair
    March 15, 2013 at 3:51 pm (6 years ago)

    Fabulous wish list, Sweets! Did you see the new Elomi Maria strapless basque? That’s absolutely gorgeous, and while it is not available for the 28-30 woman, it’s start in the right direction. The size range is pretty impressive: 34-48D, 32-48DD-E, 32-46F, 32-44FF-G, 32-42GG-H, 32-40HH. Right now, it’s coming in black and white, but maybe they will expand the colors. Also, I like how Elomi is doing a separate waist cincher designed to match the new Imogen too.

    Finally, I am so with you on more “bad ass” lingerie designs for fuller-busted women. I look at so many of the fabulous bondage inspired ones, and they all seem to stop at DD.

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    • Sweets
      March 15, 2013 at 4:04 pm (6 years ago)

      Oooh, I didn’t know about Elomi’s basque! That sounds great, and it’s a really good size range! I just read a discussion the other day from a bride who wore a 28J and was ready to weep over her wedding dress struggles. Surely someone can come up with something.

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  9. Fussy Busty
    March 16, 2013 at 1:42 pm (6 years ago)

    Okay, last I knew, the Roxy was supposed to go up to a J cup.

    Damnit. Damnit.

    Also, love this entire post 🙂

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    • Erica of A Sophisticated Pair
      March 16, 2013 at 2:32 pm (6 years ago)

      I think they actually scaled it all the way back to an H cup actually. In the catalogs/line sheets, they had a J, but when I tried to place orders for the J cup, my sales rep told me they decided to offer the Roxy up to an H cup only. It’s still better than the G cap on Freya’s bras, but a J cup would have been better.

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  10. Alicia
    June 22, 2013 at 4:53 am (6 years ago)

    ” At the end of the day, a good, firm, deep band with 6 or more hooks (and even some light side boning) would feel so, so glorious for women in the G+ size range. Our boobs are heavy. Support comes from the band. Help us hold them up, please.”
    I have been begging bra companies to do this for YEARS! I’m a J cup (Australian sizing), and I remember when, years ago, big bras had an extra one or two lines of hooks on the back. For God’s sake, someone please save my shoulders from lugging my several kilograms of boobs around!

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    • Sweets
      June 22, 2013 at 1:08 pm (6 years ago)

      I used to shy away from more than two hooks, because I thought it wasn’t “young” or “flattering”. That was crazy talk, clearly, because the more hooks the band has, the better it feels! I still really, really want a longline bra, and I will continue to hold out hope until I get it 🙂

      Reply

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